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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 93 04:30:10 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1281
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Fri, 29 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1281
Today's Topics:
AX.25 Specifications on the net?
BAUD VS BAUDS
Help
Studying in San Francisco
test osc(Ka1kjz needs) (2 msgs)
test osc ka1kjz needs
TS450S TX mod
ZA1QA - Anyone Get a QSL??
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Date: 29 Oct 93 09:45:55 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: AX.25 Specifications on the net?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
You can find a more detailed explanation of the protocol either on
ARRL info server or at HAM-server@Grafex.sbay.org.
Both are automated mail servers so you have to send a msg like :
INDEX
QUIT
in the message body (QUIT should be used if you get problems with the .sig).
I've been through this same days ago and I find the file at GRAFex quite
comprehensive (I only miss a couple of info yet to start my project). Don't have
the arrl version handy but I would imagine that they are more or less the same.
If you need a copy quickly, let me know your email addr and I'll send it to
you.
73, marco
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 12:58:29 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!magerlmac1.comm.mot.com!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BAUD VS BAUDS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>
> IS THE TERM BAUD LIKE MOST PEOPLE USE OR IS IT BAUDS LIKE THE ARRL FOLKS
> USE?
> Roy
I've been bugged by the way ARRL writes BAUDS for several years.
Look at it this way, a HERTZ is a cycle per second. Do we say HERTZS?
Dick Magerl
wa9zxm
------------------------------
Date: 29 Oct 93 10:30:22 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Help
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello!
I would like to subscribe for your list.
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 06:56:56 GMT
From: rtech!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!msattler@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Studying in San Francisco
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Those of you who sent me such inviting and pleasant email, thank you.
I haven't gotten back to all of you yet, but I will. Others worried
that I don't yet have a ticket and I'm playing with HTs. Let me put
those of you at ease; I haven't touched the PTT button yet. I am
working my way through the study book...
Being a computer programmer, I am indulging my fascination with the
hardware and protocol surrounding two-way communications. A few
questions have come up in my explorations that I think are
appropriate for this list.
I've modified my Kenwood TH-78A by removing diodes 4 and 5 as
specified and it's now able to do cross-band and rx 300-399 and
800-999 Mhz. The latter carries cellular traffic across a range I
haven't yet determined, but the former seems to be perpetually
quiet. I'm guessing that there is a reason that this band is made
available...
What are the other three diodes for?
Do I need (and does someone make) an antenna that handles all four
bands?
I'd heard it said (back in CB days) that a mobile antenna interacts
with the vehicle it's mounted on: a center-of-the-roof mount made
for a round pattern while a rear-bumper mount makes for a cigar-
shaped pattern that leads the vehicle. Is this true? Does this
affect whip antennae that drape over the entire vehicle?
Thanks again, and I look forward to joining your ranks. :-) M
--
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Michael S. Sattler msattler@netcom.com +1 (415) 621-2903
Digital Jungle Software Encrypt now; ask me how. (finger for PGP key)
All that is required for evil to triumph is
for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 18:07:50 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!a3bee2.radnet.com!cyphyn!randy@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: test osc(Ka1kjz needs)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
+-----)(----+-----------------------+-------------------o +9v 1.5 ma
| | |
### .001 > ___|___
< 47k | )
> _|_ ) L1
| C1 ___ )
| | ) __________o 19" whip
| 2N3904 | ) (_______
+--[:]------+ /-------------|______) L2 |
| X1 | |/ c ###
### +---|
| |\ e
| \
+-)(---+---)(-----+ |
| 47pf | 100pf | ### Common wire
< < ###
33k > > 2200 ohms
> > pf=uuf Res any %tol, 1/8watt
| |
### ###
X1 to be any submultiple of the desired FO FO/9 being the closest you
can get, cuz the xtal runs in its fundamental mode only.
A 3.58 mc TV crystal will , on 41st harmonic, give 2 mtrs +/- error of
course, ... so you may wanna keep that in mind.
putting a series cap---variable--- to the xtal (get one a hair low
in freq)...you can tune it up to proper freq. Use => 70 pf to do it.
Coil L1 to be .05 to .1 uh 6 turns on a bic pen body, adj length
to help C1...10-20 uuf variable ( or use 10uuf fixed and adj coil only)
Coil L2 to be 1 - 1.5 turns...leading direct to ant whip.
HOW IT WORKS
The ckt is plain ol' R-C osc, with 47 pf and 100pf ( which may need to
be made twice the values in some cases* ) as the feed back caps.
The collector sees gnd AT the xtal fo due to the tiny uh there...BUT
the coil L1 and C1 act as a trap for 146mc band, and so extract what
little amount of harmonic energy there is ( not much , but...).
The osc then operates like any other, other wise...you'd NORMALLY take
RF from the emitter via 4.7 to 10 pf.
In THIS case tho, we WANT the harmonic, so L1-C1-L2 is put to use.
RF out put is on the order of u-watts ... suited for use as sig gen to
align radio sets with, or to acid test the hearing ability of it's user.
(abuser?)
The cheapest of 9v batterys will give 15ma for 28 hrs...so HERE we are
talking about like 280 hrs...no need for a power supply
As this ckt will work from 5 to 18 volts....
you could series up AA cells or solar cells if you wanted to...
HOW TO USE
As you get rig aligned so it can hear the test osc up close, just move it
further away.
Receiver to have a 56 ohm resistor in place of the antenna, so you don't have
have to put the test osc across the street to make it weak enough to be
50% full quieting.
After tweaking Rx for best reception, re-move test osc futher away...etc.
* In some osc's 47 pf has to be 100pf and 100pf has to be 180-220pf.
This affects exact freq and is dependant on what frq xtal you use.
the 47/100pf was for 10.7 mc but the 100/180-220pf was for 3.58 mc.
If osc fails to work and you KNOW its hooked up right-transistor is good,
then change those 2 caps...maintain about 1:2 ratio between 'em
Practical values will be *with-in* 4.7pf to 470pf for freqs of
100kc thru about 16mc (fundamental modes)
--
Randy KA1UNW If you get a shock while
servicing your equipment, "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200 DON'T JUMP! -Peter Keyes
You might break an expensive tube!
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 17:54:40 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!a3bee2.radnet.com!cyphyn!randy@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: test osc(Ka1kjz needs)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Not sure if this group exists any more, but here goes...
+-----)(----+-----------------------+-------------------o +9v 1.5 ma
| | |
### .001 > ___|___
< 47k | )
> _|_ ) L1
| C1 ___ )
| | ) __________o 19" whip
| 2N3904 | ) (_______
+--[:]------+ /-------------|______) L2 |
| X1 | |/ c ###
### +---|
| |\ e
| \
+-)(---+---)(-----+ |
| 47pf | 100pf | ### Common wire
< < ###
33k > > 2200 ohms
> > pf=uuf Res any %tol, 1/8watt
| |
### ###
X1 to be any submultiple of the desired FO FO/9 being the closest you
can get, cuz the xtal runs in its fundamental mode only.
A 3.58 mc TV crystal will , on 41st harmonic, give 2 mtrs +/- error of
course, ... so you may wanna keep that in mind.
putting a series cap---variable--- to the xtal (get one a hair low
in freq)...you can tune it up to proper freq. Use => 70 pf to do it.
Coil L1 to be .05 to .1 uh 6 turns on a bic pen body, adj length
to help C1...10-20 uuf variable ( or use 10uuf fixed and adj coil only)
Coil L2 to be 1 - 1.5 turns...leading direct to ant whip.
HOW IT WORKS
The ckt is plain ol' R-C osc, with 47 pf and 100pf ( which may need to
be made twice the values in some cases* ) as the feed back caps.
The collector sees gnd AT the xtal fo due to the tiny uh there...BUT
the coil L1 and C1 act as a trap for 146mc band, and so extract what
little amount of harmonic energy there is ( not much , but...).
The osc then operates like any other, other wise...you'd NORMALLY take
RF from the emitter via 4.7 to 10 pf.
In THIS case tho, we WANT the harmonic, so L1-C1-L2 is put to use.
RF out put is on the order of u-watts ... suited for use as sig gen to
align radio sets with, or to acid test the hearing ability of it's user.
(abuser?)
The cheapest of 9v batterys will give 15ma for 28 hrs...so HERE we are
talking about like 280 hrs...no need for a power supply
As this ckt will work from 5 to 18 volts....
you could series up AA cells or solar cells if you wanted to...
HOW TO USE
As you get rig aligned so it can hear the test osc up close, just move it
further away.
Receiver to have a 56 ohm resistor in place of the antenna, so you don't have
have to put the test osc across the street to make it weak enough to be
50% full quieting.
After tweaking Rx for best reception, re-move test osc futher away...etc.
* In some osc's 47 pf has to be 100pf and 100pf has to be 180-220pf.
This affects exact freq and is dependant on what frq xtal you use.
the 47/100pf was for 10.7 mc but the 100/180-220pf was for 3.58 mc.
If osc fails to work and you KNOW its hooked up right-transistor is good,
then change those 2 caps...maintain about 1:2 ratio between 'em
Practical values will be *with-in* 4.7pf to 470pf for freqs of
100kc thru about 16mc (fundamental modes)
--
Randy KA1UNW If you get a shock while
servicing your equipment, "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200 DON'T JUMP! -Peter Keyes
You might break an expensive tube!
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 18:53:27 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!a3bee2.radnet.com!cyphyn!randy@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: test osc ka1kjz needs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
+-----)(----+-----------------------+-------------------o +9v 1.5 ma
| | |
### .001 > ___|___
< 47k | )
> _|_ ) L1
| C1 ___ )
| | ) __________o 19" whip
| 2N3904 | ) (_______
+--[:]------+ /-------------|______) L2 |
| X1 | |/ c ###
### +---|
| |\ e
| \
+-)(---+---)(-----+ |
| 47pf | 100pf | ### Common wire
< < ###
33k > > 2200 ohms
> > pf=uuf Res any %tol, 1/8watt
| |
### ###
X1 to be any submultiple of the desired FO FO/9 being the closest you
can get, cuz the xtal runs in its fundamental mode only.
A 3.58 mc TV crystal will , on 41st harmonic, give 2 mtrs +/- error of
course, ... so you may wanna keep that in mind.
putting a series cap---variable--- to the xtal (get one a hair low
in freq)...you can tune it up to proper freq. Use => 70 pf to do it.
Coil L1 to be .05 to .1 uh 6 turns on a bic pen body, adj length
to help C1...10-20 uuf variable ( or use 10uuf fixed and adj coil only)
Coil L2 to be 1 - 1.5 turns...leading direct to ant whip.
HOW IT WORKS
The ckt is plain ol' R-C osc, with 47 pf and 100pf ( which may need to
be made twice the values in some cases* ) as the feed back caps.
The collector sees gnd AT the xtal fo due to the tiny uh there...BUT
the coil L1 and C1 act as a trap for 146mc band, and so extract what
little amount of harmonic energy there is ( not much , but...).
The osc then operates like any other, other wise...you'd NORMALLY take
RF from the emitter via 4.7 to 10 pf.
In THIS case tho, we WANT the harmonic, so L1-C1-L2 is put to use.
RF out put is on the order of u-watts ... suited for use as sig gen to
align radio sets with, or to acid test the hearing ability of it's user.
(abuser?)
The cheapest of 9v batterys will give 15ma for 28 hrs...so HERE we are
talking about like 280 hrs...no need for a power supply
As this ckt will work from 5 to 18 volts....
you could series up AA cells or solar cells if you wanted to...
HOW TO USE
As you get rig aligned so it can hear the test osc up close, just move it
further away.
Receiver to have a 56 ohm resistor in place of the antenna, so you don't have
have to put the test osc across the street to make it weak enough to be
50% full quieting.
After tweaking Rx for best reception, re-move test osc futher away...etc.
* In some osc's 47 pf has to be 100pf and 100pf has to be 180-220pf.
This affects exact freq and is dependant on what frq xtal you use.
the 47/100pf was for 10.7 mc but the 100/180-220pf was for 3.58 mc.
If osc fails to work and you KNOW its hooked up right-transistor is good,
then change those 2 caps...maintain about 1:2 ratio between 'em
Practical values will be *with-in* 4.7pf to 470pf for freqs of
100kc thru about 16mc (fundamental modes)
--
Randy KA1UNW If you get a shock while
servicing your equipment, "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200 DON'T JUMP! -Peter Keyes
You might break an expensive tube!
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 23:09:24 GMT
From: nevada.edu!jimi!envoy!jim@uunet.uu.net
Subject: TS450S TX mod
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have tried unsucessfully to find general coverage tx mod instructions for
the TS450S that have actually been tried and tested. Has anyone performed
this mod or watched a dealer do it? Thanks.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 19:15:13 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!gdstech!gdstech!bat@ames.arpa
Subject: ZA1QA - Anyone Get a QSL??
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
If you need a ZA card badly, go work a few more. Keep working
different ones until you get a card. ZA1Z was on 7008.5 on 10/23
at 2217z, and ZA1E was on 21018 on 10/23 at 1832z. You should be
able to knock these guys off, then go into card-waiting mode
like the rest of us. GL.
--
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
* Pat Masterson D12-25 | KE2LJ@KC2FD *
* Grumman Data Systems | 516-346-6316. *
* Bethpage, NY 11746 | bat@gdstech.grumman.com *
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 17:57:58 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!fido.asd.sgi.com!odin!chuck.dallas.sgi.com!adams@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2507@arrl.org>, <DRT.93Oct26092851@al-burro.mit.edu>, <1993Oct26.161942.19759@worldbank.org>gi.
Subject : Re: 'Vanity' Call Signs
In article <1993Oct26.161942.19759@worldbank.org>, dearnshaw@worldbank.org (Darrell Earnshaw) writes:
...stuff deleted...
|> (Pity really, I though the U.S. was one of the last sane places left where
|> prefixes didn't change with the weather conditions!)
|>
|> -- Darrell NR3Y
|>
OK, let's open up this can of worms.
PREFIX - 1) to place in front 2) an affix attached to the beginning of
a word, base, or phrase and serving to produce a derivative word
or an inflectional form
Thus, I believe that K5 is the prefix component of my call. That makes it
unique from W5FO, WA5FO, KN5FO, .....
We have the Continental US divided into 10 zones, etc. At the present time
this division means nothing. Any ham permanently residing in any zone can
own any call from any other zone from which they transfered, bringing their
old call with them. Is this country the only one in the world, where a
country is divided up into zones or regions assigned specific prefixii (;-) ),
that currently allows this?
The reason this is a bother - if i'm looking for a state, etc. for an award
or multiplier in SS or whatever, I have no earthly idea on their geographic
location any more. Does it bother anyone else?
Carrying this further. Can I sue Arizona, if I should chose to move their,
to allow me to bring and use my Texas license plate tags? Me thinks not.
Carry this own to the international level. Can a ZD9 move to TU land or
whatever and take their call?
So can we go back to the division with the new opening of the calls missed
or whatever and get the system back in order?
Just a nit pick. It's not like the call is you. You are you. Dubs on K5E.
dit dit
:-)
--
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
adams@sgi.com
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Date: 28 Oct 1993 19:29:11 GMT
From: drt@athena.mit.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <DRT.93Oct26092851@al-burro.mit.edu>, <1993Oct26.161942.19759@worldbank.org>, <CFKHwn.Lnn@odin.corp.sgi.com>usc
Subject : Re: 'Vanity' Call Signs
In article <CFKHwn.Lnn@odin.corp.sgi.com>, adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Charles Adams) writes:
|>
|> OK, let's open up this can of worms.
|>
|> PREFIX - 1) to place in front 2) an affix attached to the beginning of
|> a word, base, or phrase and serving to produce a derivative word
|> or an inflectional form
|>
|> Thus, I believe that K5 is the prefix component of my call. That makes it
|> unique from W5FO, WA5FO, KN5FO, .....
Well, I think in the US, each call must consist of a prefix of one or two
letters, followed by a number, followed by a suffix of one to three letters. ITU
regs are more complex, but prefixes still don't include a number.
|>
|> We have the Continental US divided into 10 zones, etc. At the present time
|> this division means nothing. Any ham permanently residing in any zone can
|> own any call from any other zone from which they transfered, bringing their
|> old call with them. Is this country the only one in the world, where a
|> country is divided up into zones or regions assigned specific prefixii (;-) ),
|> that currently allows this?
|>
|> The reason this is a bother - if i'm looking for a state, etc. for an award
|> or multiplier in SS or whatever, I have no earthly idea on their geographic
|> location any more. Does it bother anyone else?
Yes, I can't stand it. Cheap for the FCC is the only reason.
|> Carrying this further. Can I sue Arizona, if I should chose to move their,
|> to allow me to bring and use my Texas license plate tags? Me thinks not.
Bad analogy. Callsign are Federal - as long as the prefix and format are right,
how FCC assigns calls is up to them. Registration is a State matter. The
Sovereign State of Arizona can tell you to stick those Texan plates up your
tailpipe, if they want to.
|> Carry this own to the international level. Can a ZD9 move to TU land or
|> whatever and take their call?
Huge difference. ITU treaty requires the prefix be right, even if it's like
"VE2/KG2S" (Yes, I know I can't legally do that for Canada, it's gotta be
KG2S/VE2! What can I tell you ... ) US rules allow you to use /extensions, but
it can't be something that sounds like you're overseas, and it can't be KT, AG,
AA, or AE (and now you know why it's KT and not AT!)
|> So can we go back to the division with the new opening of the calls missed
|> or whatever and get the system back in order?
|>
|> Just a nit pick. It's not like the call is you. You are you. Dubs on K5E.
No, I really think most amateurs consider their calls to be parts of
their identity.
-drt
--
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|David R. Tucker KG2S 8P9CL drt@mit.edu|
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|`Most political sermons teach the congregation nothing except |
|what newspapers are taken at the Rectory.' -C.S. Lewis |
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